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UFAlien



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:16 pm    Post subject: A Low Moon? Reply with quote

Well I just saw something pretty interesting. Here in western MA, the moon just set. At 9:50 PM. Wait, what?

Seriously, I'm usually awake well past midnight, and at, like, 4 AM, it'll still be pretty high up. This has been the case very recently - including, you know, yesterday. It also had a neat orange/red tint today ^^

Anyone else at all notice this? Can someone offer me the scientifical explanation?

Also, here are the pictures I managed to take, in between about 9:35 and 9:50.










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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This isn't terribly scientific, just what I've gathered by observation and watching the weather channel and nurturing a love of astronomy.
Have you ever noticed how the sun moves and rises in different places depending on the season? Or how the constellations move, and some aren't (or are) visible during certain seasons? For example, our old buddy Orion is rather hard to spot in the summer, because he stays low to the horizon. The moon does the same thing. It's not always there at night - in fact, it's rarely up for most of the night. Contrary to popular belief, the moon is NOT limited to being up at night. Ever seen the moon during the day? It's called a Day Moon, and it happens quite often. Because of the earth's tilt (I'm assuming), the moon will rise early, especially in the summer time. How early? About 9 to 10 AM. So it will set at about 9 or 10 each night (this I learned from the weather channel, which will give you moon rise and set times just like it gives sunrise and set). The times change, just like the sun, and so sometimes it will stay up later, or rise earlier (I think that generally happens in winter - it doesn't rise until about 11). But generally, in the late watches of the night, Luna is alseep. Which is good news for those of us who pursue hobbies in watching meteor showers.

The odd color is caused by atmospheric pollution and light reflections and the angle of the sun and yada-yada-yada - several different factors play into it. The orange color of your pictures is a very common color, as is a slightly more yellow tone.

Nothing unusual here, Alien, all is well in the sky.

Keep an eye on the weather channel - or if they don't have moon times, you can find them fairly easily on the internet. :3

I hope this was helpful and not too convoluted.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the effort Tinu, but honestly it took me four minutes to figure that out for myself. Basically, I liked my pictures and wanted an excuse to post them XD
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason it's red is the same reason that the sun goes redder when it sets - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunset#Colors

The size is quite likely to be only an apparent increase - like the sun, the moon looks a lot larger when it is closer to the horizon.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_moon

It's not the full out Harvest Moon that you're seeing there, but it's the same effect/cause/etc. I've always loved spotting a harvest moon, they're just so spiffy!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The harvest moon is the moon at and about the period of fullness that is nearest to the autumnal equinox.

The equinox isn't until late September, so it's not a harvest moon just yet. The next one should be though.
People often confuse harvest and hunter moons with color - I did too for a long time. It has nothing to do with color or size, and everything to do with time of year. The moon is often oddly colored and appears larger in the fall and late summer, but that doesn't make it a Harvest moon. A harvest moon is the full moon directly before the Autumn equinox, and a Hunter's moon is the full moon directly after it.

I've always found it fascinating that there's a name for the full moon of each month. This month's is called a Corn Moon.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or sturgeon moon, or fruit moon, or barley moon. Interesting choices; I assume they have to do with the harvests gathered in this month.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except sturgeon. 'cause that's a fish.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can harvest fish Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. When they come back upstream to mate, people catch them in droves.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most impressive moon phenomenons are, imho, a particularly large moon low on the horizon, and moon halos. The moon halos can cause the sky to appear as if it's day, though not quite as much light as daylight on the ground. Still pretty bright though. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halos also signal storms approaching. Very Happy

. . . I wanted to be a meteorologist when I was younger - the old fashioned way, so I've all this useless information about predicting the weather lying around in my brain. >>:
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's cool. All I can do is guess when it's gonna rain.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can stick my arm out the window and say, "Yep, it's wet outside."

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tinu. wrote:
Halos also signal storms approaching. Very Happy

. . . I wanted to be a meteorologist when I was younger - the old fashioned way, so I've all this useless information about predicting the weather lying around in my brain. >>:


I find this extremely helpful and shall store it in my memory bank to impress people when the time comes. You have been a very great help to contributing to my brain.

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