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YatesOfYore Site Admin

Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 855
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:51 pm Post subject: Grammar question! |
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I'm helping run the Human Trafficking Awareness Day fundraiser this year - and we're going to stick with the same name for it, given that none of us can seem to agree on a new one!
BUT! I'm pretty sure the punctuation used in the name last year is incorrect.
Last Year: Comic Creator's Alliance.
Since there's more than one creator, the apostrophe ought to be AFTER the "s". But should there be an apostrophe at all?
Comic Creators' Alliance: The alliance which belongs to the comic creators
Comic Creators Alliance: Incorrect? Better? Just as good?
BAH. I've been staring at them for too long, lemme know what you grammar nutters think! _________________ Keeper of Nanashi's Vambraces and the Amethyst Trees.
PS: Don't panic! I changed my username - I'm not an impostor! |
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Tinu.

Joined: 23 Mar 2008 Posts: 3662 Location: The land of dreams
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure it would be Comic Creators' Alliance, since (assuming my memory of freshman English is serving me well) it's the alliance that belongs to the comic creators. _________________ Keeper of Gaia and all the books on Earthsong
"If you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will spend its whole life believing it is stupid."
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Wren

Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 797 Location: In my head, wondering how so many manage to step outside theirs.
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:10 am Post subject: |
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Comic Creators' Alliance. When using a regular plural possessive in English, the apostrophe goes after the s.
Detailed here.
If you put the apostrophe before the s, I will assume you worship some great Comic Creator in the sky, by the way. _________________ Dubbed "Fish" by Asa. Wren->Fish
~Keeper of Willow's Jedi cloak and Tristram's smirk.~
GENERATION 19: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment. |
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Nem

Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 2115 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:18 am Post subject: |
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I believe, though I may be mistaken (haha, pointless comment really) :
Comic Creator's Alliance would be an alliance owned by one comic creator
Comic Creators' Alliance would be an alliance owned by many comic creators
Comic Creators Alliance would be an alliance of comic creators. _________________ Never forget,
We stroll along the roof of hell
Gazing at flowers.
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YatesOfYore Site Admin

Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 855
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:29 am Post subject: |
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That's kind of what I was thinking, Nem. "Creators' Alliance" isn't incorrect, but "Creators Alliance" is more accurate. _________________ Keeper of Nanashi's Vambraces and the Amethyst Trees.
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Asa

Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 3445 Location: Grammar Police HQ. Watch your language, I'm armed with the NYTimes Style Book AND Strunk and White!
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Darn, Nem beat me. That's what I was going to say. And I got all excited too! _________________ Self-styled Forum Grandmother, because I hand out nicknames and hugs whether you want them or not. ^_^
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BS: "...then insist you eat a brownie."
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YatesOfYore Site Admin

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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:44 am Post subject: |
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lol... I was waiting for you to weigh in on this one, Asa, so if you agree with Nem then that's good enough for me! _________________ Keeper of Nanashi's Vambraces and the Amethyst Trees.
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Wren

Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 797 Location: In my head, wondering how so many manage to step outside theirs.
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:07 am Post subject: |
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Huh. In the dialect I grew up with, that'd be Comic Creator Alliance. *shrug* Live and learn. _________________ Dubbed "Fish" by Asa. Wren->Fish
~Keeper of Willow's Jedi cloak and Tristram's smirk.~
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Tinalles Site Admin
Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 1630 Location: Grand Forks
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:33 am Post subject: |
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In cases like this, I generally advise rephrasing each variant to see which is closer to your intent.
Comic Creators' Alliance = Alliance belonging to Comic Creators
Comic Creators Alliance = Alliance consisting of Comic Creators
Genitive versus ablative. Either one is syntactically valid, but I'm guessing the latter is more what you were thinking. Plus then you don't have to worry where the apostrophe goes, 'cause there isn't one. ^_^ _________________ Keeper of The Remnant Minuon (cognomen Lucy, the Eaten One) and the Emissary Caeli |
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Squeeself

Joined: 23 Mar 2008 Posts: 258
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:33 am Post subject: |
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Ya drop the apostrophe, it's what you really mean
Though, funny story, I actually saw some one try to justify this one once: Creator's' Alliance...I just facepalmed and walked away... |
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