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YatesOfYore
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:51 pm    Post subject: Grammar question! Reply with quote

I'm helping run the Human Trafficking Awareness Day fundraiser this year - and we're going to stick with the same name for it, given that none of us can seem to agree on a new one!

BUT! I'm pretty sure the punctuation used in the name last year is incorrect.

Last Year: Comic Creator's Alliance.

Since there's more than one creator, the apostrophe ought to be AFTER the "s". But should there be an apostrophe at all?

Comic Creators' Alliance: The alliance which belongs to the comic creators

Comic Creators Alliance: Incorrect? Better? Just as good?


BAH. I've been staring at them for too long, lemme know what you grammar nutters think!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure it would be Comic Creators' Alliance, since (assuming my memory of freshman English is serving me well) it's the alliance that belongs to the comic creators.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comic Creators' Alliance. When using a regular plural possessive in English, the apostrophe goes after the s.

Detailed here.

If you put the apostrophe before the s, I will assume you worship some great Comic Creator in the sky, by the way.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe, though I may be mistaken (haha, pointless comment really) :

Comic Creator's Alliance would be an alliance owned by one comic creator

Comic Creators' Alliance would be an alliance owned by many comic creators

Comic Creators Alliance would be an alliance of comic creators.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's kind of what I was thinking, Nem. "Creators' Alliance" isn't incorrect, but "Creators Alliance" is more accurate.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darn, Nem beat me. That's what I was going to say. And I got all excited too!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol... I was waiting for you to weigh in on this one, Asa, so if you agree with Nem then that's good enough for me!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huh. In the dialect I grew up with, that'd be Comic Creator Alliance. *shrug* Live and learn.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In cases like this, I generally advise rephrasing each variant to see which is closer to your intent.

Comic Creators' Alliance = Alliance belonging to Comic Creators


Comic Creators Alliance = Alliance consisting of Comic Creators

Genitive versus ablative. Either one is syntactically valid, but I'm guessing the latter is more what you were thinking. Plus then you don't have to worry where the apostrophe goes, 'cause there isn't one. ^_^
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya drop the apostrophe, it's what you really mean Smile

Though, funny story, I actually saw some one try to justify this one once: Creator's' Alliance...I just facepalmed and walked away...
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