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YatesOfYore
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Online News Reply with quote

I was just curious if any of you got most of your news from an online source... and if so, where?

I don't have television, can only listen to the radio in the car (which I'm in max 2 times a week), and we don't get a newspaper subscription anymore so I've been feeling particularly out of touch about just about everything for a while now. Seriously, if someone doesn't post about it in their Facebook status, I have no idea it even happened.

So! Gimme some ideas of a site I could check daily and get the scoop from!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drudgereport.com is one that we like...

And any major newpaper will have a website. I hesitate to suggest any, so choose the ones that agree with your politics...

Also there's a national border between you and me, so there's a slight difference in perspective. ^_^
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asa's right, most major news stations and papers will have a website.

For major things I always check out the BBC. I hate news with a lot of bias, so I avoid most US papers and stations. BBC doesn't have much bias that I've noticed - or perhaps I'm just to dense to notice it.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave up on TV when I moved up to uni, just not worth the license fee. Most of my news comes by way of forums and newspapers, if there's something dreadfully important someone will post about it Razz .

There are a couple of decent websites out there though.

Politics/world events
BBC News
Fairly unbiased. Has a world news section.

Sky News
Not as biased as Fox and CNN; kinda ironic considering Fox and Sky are ultimately owned by the same company. Sky tends to be more geared towards catering for an European style debate rather than an American one though.

They have a live news video stream too if you're into that kind of thing, although I think it may only concern the UK news on that stream ^_^;

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen Colbert: The Colbert Report

and

Jon Stewart: The Daily Show


They make me laugh and I learn something... kinda.
Hey, and Jon Stewart in a recent poll was voted America's most trusted newscaster. Yup.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm addicted to the New York Times. nytimes.com Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BBC doesn't have much bias that I've noticed

Or it's bias that you agree with.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BBC is good. I regularly read Salon.com. I read most of what they print, but I especially like "How The World Works", their blog on economics and international trade and such.

For geek type news, I read Slashdot.org. For random crap with lots of cute animal pictures, I sometimes read Digg.com, though not all that often.

The Drudge Report, Asa? Really? Why?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asa wrote:
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BBC doesn't have much bias that I've noticed

Or it's bias that you agree with.

I don't like bias in either direction, regardless of whether or not I agree with it. I believe that the news should be unbiased - I want to know what's happening, not read someone's opinion. =)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to use news.google.com, because they have a plethora of sources for almost every bit of news you could want. In fact, that's one of my home pages on my PC (not my laptop, due to processor speed). If something looks interesting, then I'll find multiple links. I aim to find the most liberal, the most conservative, the most green, and the most unbiased for EVERY article.

Bias is impossible to avoid. We ALL have bias. It's also far more difficult to "see" bias that you agree with, such being the case with the BBC. There are a lot of things I like about the BBC, but many of their stories do contain bias. Not as much bias as, say, farrightnews.com (I'm not kidding. It's a website), but bias exists.

I find that the easiest way to avoid bias is to do your own research. Don't limit yourself to one source, and find out BOTH sides of the story if you can.

A perfect example of this is the recent hullaballoo over the police officer and the college professor in... what, Cambridge wasn't it? Depending who you asked, it was a belligerent professor trying to use racism as a blanket shield to attack the police for doing their job, or it was a police officer who was obviously insensitive and ignorant who used his prejudice instead of his judgment. If you dug for more details, you found out that the police officer was a specialist in training for cultural sensitivity. Say what you will about police ineptitude, but I have significant problem assuming that he would make decisions solely based on race, in a well-to-do neighborhood. Also that the professor's neighbors called the police on his break-in attempt. Neither would help things...

It's like with anything on the internet. Check your sources. Check others' sources. NEVER believe 100% in a piece of noteworthy news that can't be backed up for verified.

Similarly: MSNBC, Fox, CNN, and even the BBC aired a report during the recent US Election that Obama's inauguration costs were HUGE compared to George W. Bush's. Or Clinton's, for that matter. The major agencies ran with this news, despite not having any source for their figures other than a blog on the internet. No fact-checking. When fact-checked, the error in the data was found: The "Obama Inauguration Cost" included the security detail cost, where the "Bush Inauguration Cost" (as well as every other president's) did not. Include the costs, and Obama's was nearly identical. (Link)

But me, I'm not conservative or liberal. I'm not republican or democrat. I'm not green or consumer. I believe whole-heartedly in understanding every development, every situation, every plan, every nuance. Then I believe in planning, adjusting, or acting accordingly. On issues that resonate so deeply with the entire world, such as Global Warming, this is absolutely critical to forming unbiased opinions.

Good luck, Lady!

P.S. I have absolutely nothing against the BBC, I prefer them over almost any US news agency. I just don't like the notion that they're unbiased. They're biased, it's just usually biased with cynicism. This makes them exceptional as journalists, but not perfect. Any time you state something as fact with admitting there is gray area, you deny that any other choice exists. In true science, this is an impossible stance to take. On scientific matters, it is imperative to remember that we DO NOT KNOW, and must keep our minds open. Our data should never prove a point, it should never back up a theory. We should always attempt to gather all the information we can, and see it with fresh eyes. At least, that's what I believe.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tenshi wrote:
They're biased, it's just usually biased with cynicism.

That is because they are British.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyris wrote:
Tenshi wrote:
They're biased, it's just usually biased with cynicism.

That is because they are British.

Isn't it awesome?


Oh, by all means so! I love the BBC. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent! Thank you all for all the suggestions, I'm gonna try a few of them out and see how I like them.

And yes, no-bias is best, but as Tenshi well points out, it's pretty much impossible to avoid - we're human and unless we're reporting on the answer to an algebra question, we HAVE to see something from a point of view. The best way is to get your info from multiple sources and glean the truth from the overlapping bits.

I'm not even going to look at that farrightnews site though... I think just looking at it would probably make me angry. Bah!

And I sorely miss Stewart (and to a lesser degree, Colbert)... but now that I've got highspeed, maybe I can start watching them online! WOO! ... y'know, in all that spare time I have.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch it with the younglings! Get them interested in world events early. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bore them silly, more likely. Though I must admit, people who haven't learned to talk yet tend to have very broad interests.
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